Badou Jack vs. Marcus Browne International Media
All right, thank you everyone for joining the call today.
Todayís call we are going to be talking with former two
division world champion, Badou Jack and undefeated former
2012 U.S. Olympian Marcus Browne, which will be a very
exciting matchup as the co-feature to Manny Pacquiao taking
on Adrien Broner on January 19.
Representing SHOWTIME, we have on the call Chris DeBlasio.
Chris, would you like to say a few words?
Thanks, Leonard. Happy New Year to everybody and thanks for
being on the call today. On behalf of Stephen Espinoza, who
couldnít be with us, heís traveling on other business, I
want to say, from all of us at the network, weíre proud to
present this event.
We have a four-fight pay-per-view telecast with each matchup
up holding a unique, significance in its own right.
We have two world title fights on the pay-per-view. Thereís
also a 12 round featherweight bout thatís going to open up
the show between Jhack Tepora and Hugo Ruiz. We have a main
event that pits two of boxingís biggest stars in Manny
Pacquiao and Adrien Broner in a really important, 147-pound
world title fight.
But the co-feature here, this is an interim title fight
between Badou Jack and Marcus Browne. These are two fighters
that have come of age on SHOWTIME.
Both began their careers, early in their careers were
featured on ShoBox: The New Generation against very tough
opponents and have fought on virtually every live boxing
series that we have on the network.
This is Marcus Browneís eighth fight with SHOWTIME and this
will be Badouís 13th fight with us. So weíre proud to have
them back. They have a special place for all of us on the
crew and on the team here at SHOWTIME Sports and for all of
our viewers who seen him develop their careers to this
Both men have something to prove on January 19. The light
heavyweight division is a division that is now wide open.
Thereís a lot of fresh talent and a lot of people vying for
the top spot. Both men deserve this shot and this entire
card is a really terrific way to kick off 2019. Weíre
Just a brief program reminder regarding this event, ALL
ACCESS: PACQUIAO VS. BRONER will premiere this Friday at
10:30 p.m. on SHOWTIME. Itís a three-part series covering
the main event fighters as they prepare for the big fight.
Episode two will premiere on Friday, January 11 at 9:30
p.m., and thatíll be followed by our first ShoBox telecast
of the year. So with that, Iíll turn it back to you,
Leonard, and weíll get right to the fighters. Thanks for
Yes, thank you, Chris. Again, as Chris touched on, this - in
my eyes, this is an outstanding bout. This is a bout that
the fans have been talking about for a while.
These two have been going back and forth a little bit on
social media. What an outstanding co-feature to a great main
event and overall outstanding card.
Talking a little bit about Marcus Browne, heís a very, very
exciting young fighter, a former Olympian whoís going to be
looking to make a statement against a former two-division
world champion in Badou Jack.
And I think that, come fight night on January 19, Marcus is
looking to, not only make a statement but open himself up to
fighting anyone else thatís out there, any top guys in the
light heavyweight division.
So, without further ado, I would like Marcus Browne, who
comes to us with a 22 and 0 record with 16 big KOs from
Staten Island, New York. Marcus, would you like to say a few
Happy New Year everybody. Iím honored. Iím ready. Iím
working hard. Iíve worked hard my whole career for this
point and Badou Jack, a respectable guy, two-time world
champion, but come January 19, weíre bringing the whole
kitchen sink and anything else with it.
Iím ready to take care of business. I know he knows whatís
coming to him. And I really havenít got too much to say. Iím
going to let my hands do the talking.
Iím not huge braggadocios kind of guy. Neither is he, from
what it looks like. It was one of the easiest fights to be
made in the division and I appreciate you for signing the
contract and being a man and stepping up.
Come January 19, you got hell coming. Youíve got fury.
Youíve got everything coming to you. This ainít no Anthony
Dirrell. This ainít no washed up George Groves that got beat
up by Carl Froch twice.
This ainít no old Adonis Stevenson. This ainít no Nathan
Cleverly. This is Marcus Browne, my brother. So make sure
youíre ready because I know Iím ready.
Well, thank you, Marcus. And moving on to the former two
division world champion. I canít say enough great things
about Badou Jack. Heís the guy thatís always willing to take
on the best thatís out there.
This is a fight that he asked for and itís a fight that I
think that Marcus Browneís style will make for a very, very
exciting fight. Badou is used to fighting any and every
Itís a fight that heís really, really looking forward to. So
without further ado, former two-division world champion,
none other than Badou Jack.
Hey, how is everybody doing? You know, Iím excited for this
fight. Iím always in the gym, always working hard. So I
donít have to say that Iím ready. Iím always ready.
Itís going to be good fight. The young hungry guys have got
something to prove. Iíve been there, been battle tested
because I fought the best.
I donít have to brag about what Iíve done. This is the best
guy available and weíre going to have some fun. It might
look easy from the outside. Well, itís a little different
when you step up to world-class in the competition.
Trust me. I know it ainít easy. And Iím working like Iíve
never worked before in my life, so trust me, I know it ainít
easy. And you could say what you want from the outside. Come
January 19, youíre going to see. Youíre going to see. So,
keep it up.
I let my hands do the talking. Everybody knows me.
Weíll see fight night.
Badou, I was just wondering if you could maybe talk about
your experience level at the top level,
do you feel youíre more prepared for this type of fight than
Marcus is because of the level of opposition that you
To have experience against great fighters, of course, is
going to play a major role in big fights but in boxing,
anything can happen.
Iím very confident. Iím ready and Iíve been waiting. I
havenít fought since May. Iím definitely ready. Iím really
hungry, so experience is a major key, of course.
Marcus obviously has a very fast hands. Heís a strong guy.
What you think of him just overall as a fighter?
The little that Iíve seen, heís a good fighter. Heís
definitely a good fighter.
Marcus, what do you think of Badou Jack and maybe his level
of experience against top guys?
Well, most of his fights have been at 168. Nathan Cleverly
was washed and Adonis Stevenson is old. Heís a very strong
minded, hungry and a great champion, of course, but come
January 19, heís going to see that he hasnít fight anybody
like me, plain and simple. Iím not James DeGale.
This is the light heavyweight division. Heís fighting a real
light heavyweight and a young, strong, light heavyweight.
So, weíll see come January 19, like he said.
Marcus, Iím not sure how closely you watched the fight but
when he fought Adonis Stevenson back in May, who did you
I didnít watch it to see who won. And, honestly, I really
donít care who won, it didnít matter to me, but it was a
He started off slow. Picked it up towards the end. Still
couldnít get him out of there. So, good fight.
Thank you, Marcus. I have a question for both guys, as well.
Obviously what happened to Adonis last month was a reminder
of how brutal this business is.
I was just wondering, Badou, having shared the ring with
him, what your thoughts are and what happened to Adonis and
maybe how heís recovered so far. And, Marcus, I know you
didnít fight him, but if also you could speak to that as
I was very emotional about it because Iíve been in that ring
with him in my last fight. And he took a lot of punishment
in that fight.
He was stumbling around in the hotel after the fight.
Everybody said he really took a beating. So, itís sad. But
this is what we signed up for. Iíve been praying for him
since this thing happened. Iím glad he woke up and hopefully
he can recover. Itís the business. Itís nothing personal.
This is just business. Weíre trying to feed our families.
Hopefully you get back to normal so he can enjoy his family
and his kids and everything. He just had a daughter before
for the fight so, itís sad but God willing, heíll come back
Itís a sad and unfortunate situation but this is what we
sign up for, what we sign on the dotted line for, getting in
the ring. Thatís the risk that we take at fighting.
I feel bad for him but hopefully he comes out of this with
all of his faculties, so he could be able to enjoy his
family like Badou said.
Most importantly, heís older. Heís an older fighter. Father
time caught up with him. I heard he was going through a lot
of things outside of the ring so maybe that was part of the
reason. But hopefully he will be all right.
Badou are you now at the point where you kind of feel that
you have to enter each fight with the objective of taking
the judges out of the result so that there are no doubts
that you are the clear winner?
Yes, you canít really complain to the judges. In all those
close fights I had, I landed more than 100 more punches than
my opponents. And most of them - this is sad, but most of
them were not the same fighter after. I just have to make a
statement. Theyíre not going to do me any favors.
This is for the interim WBA title and if you win, would you
welcome a fight against the full world champion, Dmitry
Yes thatís the fight that I really wanted but, right now,
Iím focusing on Marcus Browne. Thatís where all my focus is,
so I canít look past anyone. I know that as a fighter better
than anybody else.
Iíll speak on that. If Badou is victorious in this fight
against Marcus Browne, heís willing to fight any of the
light heavyweight champions out there - any of them.
Would you say that the winner of this fight can make the
claim that they are the best light heavyweight in the world?
There are four champions better ahead of Marcus Browne. So
just me beating him, that doesnít really make me number one.
I thought I would beat Stevenson and he was the lineal
champion. But I donít really focus on that. Iím focusing on
winning my fight. All of the other stuff is just bonus.
Badou do you feel that you will be able to get up the way
you normally would for a fight being that Marcus isnít one
of the champions?
Yes, that comes with experience. Itís the ability be ready
whenever. It doesnít matter if itís the champion or if itís
a contender or whatever. Youíve got to think that every
fight is a world title fight or the toughest fight of your
life. So, my motivation is never a problem.
Leonard I heard you say that after this fight, if Badou is
victorious, heís willing to fight all of the champions. Is
he able to go out and seek those champions on their
Weíre willing to listen and entertain any offers that are
out there. Obviously, Badou has a very tough fight ahead of
him in Marcus Browne and heís got to get by Marcus Browne
first before considering anything else. But to answer your
direct question, weíre willing to listen to any offers that
are out there, if heís able to get past Marcus Browne.
Marcus, how badly did you have your mind set on Badou? Was
this your only option?
Actually, well, couple months ago, all other guys were busy
and he was the only guy who wasnít, so it was one of the
easiest fights to make. It really doesnít matter to me who I
fight. Iím tired of sitting around and not being active. I
like to actually be in the ring.
Is there anything that you see in Badou thatís giving you
confidence that or is it frustration of not getting one of
No, no frustration, and I donít see anything. Heís a tough,
tough fighter. Heís not an easy fighter. Heís no walk over.
Super tough. Super gritty. Super headstrong, so thereís
nothing that I see. He was just a guy who wasnít busy and I
Weíre in the same weight division. Heís a light heavyweight.
Heís a two-time world champion. He really didnít lose the
belt. He gave it up to fight for the belt to get a draw, so
heís still a champion basically.
All I see is a champion, the guy whoís ready and willing to
fight and so on. This is a business.
Do you feel that it would be easy for you to get a fight
after this debut if you were able to beat Badou because of
who he has and what heís considered in the division?
Iím not overlooking him. Iíll be focused on him. Iím not
worried about fighting no other champions. All Iím worried
about is fighting Badou Jack on January 19. And after that,
we can discuss whatever.
But until then, Iím only talking about fighting Badou Jack
at MGM Grand on January 19 in Las Vegas. Thatís about it.
Leonard, quick question here. I hope youíre having a good
New Yearís. Looking at the WBA and WBC ratings, Badou and
Marcus were both one and two.
Is there a particular reason why you went with the WBA route
for this fight in terms of the interim title?
No, not necessarily. As you just mentioned, both of these
guys are highly ranked across the board. It wasnít difficult
at all. And from the Badou perspective, he is always willing
and ready and basically available to fight any of these
He has a tough fight against Marcus Browne for the WBA
interim title and weíll move on from there.
Badou, if you beat Marcus Browne, would be your preference
to go directly into a Bivol fight or would you like to
explore another possibility?
There are a lot of big names out there. Sergey Kovalev and
Eleider Alvarez fight two weeks after me, so letís see what
happens. Iím focusing on whatís in front of me.
But Iím willing to fight any one of the champions. I prefer
the one that pays me the most. If theyíll pay me the same,
probably Bivol. But like I said, Marcus Browne is first.
One more question for you, Badou. What did you think of
Bivolís last couple of performances where he went the
distance with older veterans?
I think he is a good fighter. I think heís a good boxer,
athletic. Everybody says, oh, heís going to knock this guy
out. Yes, but this is boxing. Jean Pascal is a tough guy.
Itís not easy to knock everybody out. Thatís the thing. Itís
a different story when you fight veterans and tougher guys
than when you fight prospect opponents that youíre supposed
to knock out.
Itís a different story. My last fights have been against
world champions. Itís a little harder to knock guys like
that out. But Bivol, I think he won every round. Most of the
rounds against him anyway. I think heís a good fighter.
Marcus, should you beat Badou Jack, is it your wish to go
directly to Bivol or would you like to explore other
This is prize fighting, so whoeverís got the biggest prize,
thatís who I want to fight. But, yes, whatever makes the
most dollars, makes the most sense to me at this point in my
Thatís where Iím at with that. But Iím not looking past
Badou Jack. Heís not a guy to be overlooked in his own
right. Iím not going to feel and talk about ten months ahead
when Iíve got the biggest fight of my life in 17 days.
Marcus, just want to get your personal opinion. Leaving you
out of it, who do you think is the best light heavyweight in
the world out of those four?
Marcus Browne. I ainít leaving me out of it because I donít
care whoís the best light heavyweight because youíre talking
to one right now.
Marcus, given how most of your fights, since 2015, the last
three years, really ended pretty quickly, are you making any
adjustments in having to ensure that youíre able to go a
full 12 rounds against a guy like Badou Jack?
Thatís for me to work on and for you to see on January 19.
At the end of the day, I know the type of fighter he is. We
know heís a work horse of a fighter and weíre prepared for
that. Heís got great form. On January 19, youíll see that
Iím in shape or not.
Do you still kind of feel like you need that win over Badou
Jack to sort of make a true statement to all the boxing fans
out there that you do belong in that elite echelon of
fighters at 175 pounds?
I need a win against every fighter that I step in the ring
with. No fighter is going to define my legacy. At the end of
the day, this is all part of Godís plan, itís already
written and Iím just following it. This is not my dream,
itís my destiny and Iím taking it one day and one step at a
time, one fighter at a time.
Badou Jack is not going to define my legacy and determine
whether or not I am a real player in the light heavyweight
division. My performance in this fight will.
Badou you said you wanted to make a statement. What
advantage does your experience give you with a guy like
Marcus Browne with all of his skills?
Also, when you say you want to make a statement, does that
mean that you donít want to leave it in the hands of the
judges and that you do want to get a knockout?
Of course, I donít want to leave it in the hands of the
judges. If youíre a fighter, you should never go the
Every fight is a different fight so you never know. But all
I know is Iíve been there before. I know what it takes. I
know Iíve been on a bunch of pay-per-view cards.
I know what it takes in front of those lights. When itís
really getting down to a 50-50 fight, when youíre in a tough
fight, I know what it takes.
Do you feel like, when you say you want to make a statement,
do you feel like you want to get a stoppage? What are your
thoughts on that?
Iím listening to my corner and following the game plan. Of
course, I want to knock guys out. If they donít come, they
donít come. Iíll show you January 19 what Iím about.
Marcus, do you feel any pressure to get the knockout, win
every single round and that way, make a statement and not
leave it in the hands of the judges? In other words, are you
concerned about winning this?
Iím not concerned about anything at all. At the end of the
day, we know what weíre working for. If a knockout comes, it
comes. But if not, we are winning every round and thatís
Iím not here to lose rounds and thatís about it. But Iím not
concerned about what the judges are doing. We already know
what type of time it is already.
We should know how weíre coming. Iím not looking for a
knockout. Iím just looking to box and do what I do and
implement the game plan and systematically break him down.
We would like to thank everyone for joining the call. Weíre
17 days away. Again, this is a great, great matchup.
Outstanding co-feature to Manny Pacquiao taking on Adrien
Broner on January 19.
I guarantee you, this fight here will be probably the best
fight on the card. These guys will be looking to steal the
show, and again, itís a very outstanding matchup and weíre
very excited. Thank you everyone for joining the call.