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THERE
WILL BE NO FAN FIGHT This WEEK: NOV 21-27
(Happy Thanksgiving) |
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Fan Fight (Nov.
14-20):
"Who
Should Antonio Tarver Fight Next?" |
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Result at Time of Stoppage: Blue:
19,
Red: 19
Nito KO 3
Kobra-Kai |
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Blue Corner:
Nito
(5-3, 3 KO's) -
Glen Johnson
Red Corner: Kobra Kai (4-0, 3 KO's) - Jean
Marc Mormeck |
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Blue:
"Ok
whats good. KobraKai. You made a good choice. But remember the key word
is “Who should Antonio Tarver fight NEXT”
….. Glen Johnson is an obvious pick. Cause from a long term stand point,
Johnson is the most marketable fight for Tarver. Mormeck is lined up to
battle for the Undisputed Cruiserweight Championship. He should win
against Bell. So instead of tarver just waiting for the winner he make
some money. Now Tarver-Johnson 3 is no DeLaHoya-Trinidad financially but
sadly it will make Tarver more money than fighting anyone else in the
light-heavyweight and cruiserweight aside of roy jones.. plus tarver
knows he can beat johnson. Bottom line it’s a marketable winnable
concealed tune up which sets up a huge fight for Tarver."
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Red: "Hey Nito, it's an honor.
Yes, Johnson is more marketable for Tarver, at the moment! But remember,
Mormeck is fighting Lucas for the UNDISPUTED Cruiserweight championship
in January I think it is and that's huge. So huge that Evander Holyfield
was the last to unify the cruiserweight championship. So Mormeck is
about to be a household name, but his win over Braithwaite basically got
everyone used to him. Im quite positive he'll top Lucas and hold each
belt in the cruiserweight division, so how great would it be to see
Tarver fight him for it? Tarver beat Jones, twice. One of the top names
and most gifted athletes than appeared unbeatable in the eyes of most.
So Tarver is carrying out a bit of Jones legacy with those wins and how
great would it be to be able to compare with the great Holyfield AS
WELL? That would be almost unheard of. All credit to Mormeck of course
and I wouldn't doubt a win for him vs Tarver, but it would mean
everything in the world for Tarver should he win. The promotion would be
easy. Sure Johnson Tarver II has a value, but Tarver really won both
times and the fights werent bad, but not great either. I think new
waters for Tarver would bring new excitement to watch him fight rather
than everyone go "oh, that again?". Tarver vs Mormeck would also be
perfect to get Tarver ready for what he clams he wants, is to rule the
heavyweights. Im not sure I would pick him to rule, but the current
divisions status could mean anyone has a chance and if Tarver could
become the undisputed cruiserweight champion, they could do all kinds of
publicity surrounding the Holyfield resemblances in a match vs. Tyson."
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Round 1 underway against currently ranked number 3 Nito and top up and
comer Kobra-Kai. The bell sounds and both fighters make the round short
and sweet. Neither coming in over confident, appears to know what's
ahead of the other. Nito is on the mark with the "should" reason for
fighting Johnson. After all, it's Tarver looking out for himself and
money is what he wants most when he admits calling out Tyson was just
for that. Kobra-Kai bringing up some interesting facts about Mormeck's
undisputed fight coming up and how Evander was the last to unify would
could mean a lot for Tarver who already plans on moving up, so why not
make a quick stop in the division right between to try and pick-up what
few have fought for. This is a very good round, Nito more in a feeling
out process with his jab and Kobra-Kai trying to mix it up a little,
catches Nito near the end of the round with a grazing right hand.
*10-9 Round to Red* Good, Close round
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- Round 2 - |
Red:
"Tarver says he wants a Tyson fight. He
also wants to rule the heavyweight division. I wouldnt count him out of
possibly dominating at heavyweight, but chances don't look to good after
having his jaw broken by Eric Harding and almost going down to Jones in
their last fight. I don't think he can take a punch and heavyweights
would kill him. It's not the smartest move, but if that's what he wants,
go up one division, but not only that, challenge the number 1 guy there,
who will be the holder of all three belts come January and that will be
Mormeck. Not a big money fight because Mormeck isn't a house hold name,
but that's what promotion is for and by mentioning the names Holyfield
and Tyson in the same promotion, it's bound to get people to tune in and
get it on PPV. How rare is it to have a unified Cruiserweight
championship fight? Even rarer, a light heavyweight challenging for that
very title. That's unheard of. Cam you imagine if Jones had won the
unified title at Cruiser before fighting Ruiz and winning a heavyweight
title? He's already thought of to be one of the biggest names and most
accomplished accomplishers. Tarver has that chance to do just that. Im
not sure Glen Johnson would even be my 2nd or 3rd choice, give or take
possible Hopkins, Wright, Taylor and Lacy fights. If Hopkins beats
Taylor the 1st time it would have been Tarver vs Hopkins on Dec 3rd
instead and that's a fight I think would do 10 times more than a Glen
Johnson 3rd meeting."
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Blue:
"Sorry I didn’t
show no love in the first round.. I definitely see you have been
knocking around some these guys on this site.. So there the
respect.. Lets get to it Korbra
Remember the key
word is NEXT. All the fighters you mention have upcoming fights
including your pick. The logical thing to do for tarver to do is
make money. Hop, Lacy, Taylor all have important fights coming up.
Winky is still testing the middleweight waters. Who else?? Enough of
the top lighter fighters calling out Tyson. Leave him alone..LOL..
he’s done..its just basically saying I want more money. Tarver has
to stay busy. And who is available plus logical… right now no one..
but he is 1 and 1 with two other good fighters: Glen Johnson and
Eric Harding. After that you have to consider the last time fans saw
both fighters.. Eric Harding is in comeback mode but Glen looked
pretty good on the best damn sports show. So why not complete
another trilogy while waiting on top fighter’s next move.. As for
comparing Roy fighting Ruiz to Tarver fighting Tyson.. yeah ill
compare them too.. both light heavyweights try to preform a magic
trick.. convincing the crowds that there was a huge risk
factor..when jones fought quite possibly the worst heavyweight
champion and tarver is planning on fighting the most past his prime
and 100% shot and should be retired but has a huge debt champion.."
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Round 3 gets underway and Nito lands a solid right hand that shakes
Kobra-Kai, best punch of the fight. Finally, a mention of Eric Harding,
who is also 1-1 with Tarver. With Harding's latest victory, it was
almost sure that he'd be the name one of the corner's picked, but
wasn't. Kobra throwing decent shots, but none landing flush as Nito is
able to duck and dodge.
* 10-9 Round to Blue *
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- Round 3 - |
Blue: "OK
round 3.. Now im getting into it. I mean realistically here your choice
of fighting mormeck will leave tarver idle for a few months. I think
tarver and his camp will want to keep busy. Especially after the jones
fight in which tarver looked incredibly spent in a fight he was
winning.. he needs to keep busy instead of waiting for the outcome of
mormeck-bell then waiting for mormeck to recover and train. That’s a
long time to be out the ring. So the question is who.. He wants to keep
busy.. But tarver’s arrogance has shown me that he is looking for big
fights only.. I honestly think tarver is 100% sure he can beat glen. So
to a boxing fan it looks good to finish a trilogy but to tarver’s camp
It is an easy fight making easy money and setting up a big fight down
the line. I mean really who is tarver gonna fight and make money with?
No one in cruiserweight or lightheavyweight can be showcased as a decent
fight worthy of fans to watch except for Johnson.."
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Red: "Ok, idle a few months,
maybe Eric Harding could be a fight just to settle the score, but with
Johnson, there's not much to settle. Tarver clearly won both, the 1st
fights scores were preposterous. You said there isn;t a cruiserweight
that could generate a big money fight with Tarver, but that's not the
point Im trying to make. It's more of "The Undisputed Cruiserweight
Title" that I picked as the opponent over Mormeck. Im quite positive he
beats Bell to obtain the 3rd belt. It's not Tarver vs Mormeck that's
going to sell the fight, it's Tarver trying to accomplish a goal at
Cruiser, something Jones didn't have the chance to do and the last one
to do so is Holyfield, one of the biggest names in all of boxing. Im
sure that could help Tarver pay a few bills winning undisputed title at
Cruiser, then go on to fight Tyson."
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Round 3 gets started and Nito jumps right on Kobra-Kai. The experience
really showing here as Nito puts together combinations as Kobra seems to
be tiring. An overhand right from Nito connects flush and Kobra nearly
turns his back. Kobra almost looking for a way out of this fight after
being hurt for the 1st time in his career. Nito comes right in and drops
the left hook to the body and DOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOES
KOOOOOOBBBBRRAAA!
First time he's been down. 5...6...7...he's up on 8 and let continue.
Nito short and sweet, not over extending any punches here, everything
landing on the mark. Another hook to the body and Kobra once again turns
his back to face the corner. Nito comes in and lands another right hand
to the head and DOOOOOOOOOWWWNNN HE GOOOOOOEEESSSS AGGGAAAAAAAAIIN!!!
Kobra doesnt seem to know what to do. This is the 1st time he's been
tested and we're seeing what he's really made of despite never making it
past the 1st round in each of his previous successful fights. 7...8...it
doesn't look like he's going to make it. 9....10, THAT'S IT! KOBRA-KAI
IS COUNTED OUT, HERE IN ROUND 3!
* Ladies And Gentlemen, This Fight Has Come To And Emd Here In The Third
Round! The Referee Has Called This One Off Following Two Knockdowns At
1:59 In The 3rd, To Your Winner By KO.....He's Back Ladies &
Gentlemen...
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Nito, a great win here in
stopping previously unbeaten Kobra-Kai. You maintain your top 3 status
in Fan Fight, yet Enoz and Neil have yet to make a date for their title
fight, do you plan to intervene, or wait for that fight to take place so
you can challenge for the title?
Nito:
Good fight Kobra. I feel good. I feel ready for anyone. I really want to
avenge my losses. So if Rob isn’t busy lets do this.
Kobra, your 1st loss in a
true tough fight you appeared to have early on. Where you just
pushed to fast, what was it?
Kobra-Kai:
Good Fight Nito, I take nothing
away from him. He came and did what he had to do. He did show me that
some of my argument was wrong, but I showed I still have the power to
nearly KO anyone in the 1st round, I wont let anyone slide ever again I
can assure that.
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- Round 4 - FINAL ROUND! |
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Fan Fight (Nov.
7-13):
"Who
Is/Was The Worst Heavyweight Champion Of All Time?" |
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Result at Time of Stoppage: Blue:
30,
Red: 27
Rob Quijano TKO 4
All Red Gloria |
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Blue Corner:
Rob Quijano
(3-0-1, 1 KO) -
John Ruiz
Red Corner: All Red Gloria (2-1, 2 KO's) -
Bruce Seldon |
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Blue:
"All Red
Gloria, good luck to you. You have an impressive record. I see that
you have chosen Bruce Seldon as the worst heavyweight champion of all
time. My choice is simple and I believe that many would agree with
me...John "the used to be Quiet Man" Ruiz. Ruiz has been the WBA
champion for some time now and with each bout that passes, everyone
hopes for his demise. Now mind you I am Puerto Rican and I would love
to sit here with honor because we have a Puerto Rican Heavyweight
champion...the first Latino Heavyweight Champion for that matter. I
cannot though. I sit there after each fight is announced for Ruiz
thinking that this time he will show why Puerto Rican fighters are proud
fighters. This time he will show the heart of a champion. Instead I am
left with this disgust because even when he loses, he is still being
declared the winner. HOW??????? At least Seldon had some knockout
power, what does Ruiz have? The ability to cuddle and whisper sweet
nothings? This is boxing and not the WWE. Even in the WWE Ruiz
wouldn't fare well because he can't act. How many times do we have to
be put to sleep by this "man on man action." I am sorry but I am not
interested in seeing this Greco-Roman style in Boxing. I met John
during the Trinidad vs. Mayorga fight in New York and I thought he was
very humble. That was before all of this Toney lawsuit crap. Ruiz
should count his blessings that he still has a title to hold onto, keep
his mouth shut, and should leave it at that. I haven't even started
with Ruiz' performances though. That's my round one and if this is a
Ruiz fight, it's going the distance. How can you slip in a punch now,
if you're being held?" |
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Red: "It's no rumor that
everyone hates Ruiz. He doesn't deserve to be champion and shouldn't be
considered a real one at all, however, on a list of worst heavies, Ruiz
shouldn't be in the top 5-10. There are heavyweights who lost the title
on their very first defense. Buster Douglas was almost my pick, but at
least he has that unforgettable victory over Tyson that will go down in
history. You got Ruiz here who actually has fought and beaten some of
the top heavies today, but given the fact that the division is worse
than poor at the moment. When it was elite, we all saw Ruiz fall in 18
seconds to Tua and would do the same if the division was nearly as good
as it was back then. Ruiz is boring, holds a lot, but if it wins him
fights, it wins him fights. I don't care to watch it, but at least he
has a string of named opponents. he did beat Evander a few times, and
that's the same Evander who beat Rahman who is close to becoming a
heavyweight champion himself with the latest news about Klitschko. Then
you got Bruce Seldon. This guy never deserved to be champion, just from
beating an old ass Toney Tucker, only to take a dive in the Tyson fight.
Everyone knows that any pure boxer could beat Tyson and Seldon wasnt
that bad of a fighter, but to take a knee a few times is a total
disgrace on the sport and you are no longer deserving of anything. Im
not talking about taking a knee because he was hurt, im talking about
throwing the fight. It was fixed. He took a pay day, and I know no one
will argue that with me, it's that Seldon is less deserving than Ruiz.
Ruiz went down vs Golota and got back up to win. I hate Ruiz to tell you
the truth, and I wish he would fix himself in a fight and let a real
fighter have the championship, but he hasnt so far and Seldon never came
back...well, he had the 2-3 fights just recently, but that doesnt
count."
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Round 1 here between these two top 10'ers and already some great points
brought up by each side. Comparing the two fighters ability against one
another to the credentials of fighters they've fought is a tough one
when talking about Ruiz and Seldon. Both right in the sense that Ruiz is
boring and undeserving, yet having fought and beat the so called number
1 mandatories, give or take a few bad scores (vs. Golota). Yet Seldon
appearing to have superior skill to Ruiz, just not with the list of
opponents Ruiz has. So far, Gloria and Rob are taking their time here
and both landing meaningful shots.
*10-10 Round * Good Round!
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Red: "How can a guy who wins
fights by being boring be more of a winner, or just a better champion
than one who wins the title, then in the very next fight takes a dive?
There is nothing more a disgrace in the world let alone in boxing. Ruiz
hasn't taken a dive, poor us, yet. Seldon did. This is where my pick
over Buster Douglas makes more sense. Although Douglas lost his title
also in his very next fight, but he went down by a legitimate shot, and
to a legitimate fighter in Holyfield. Seldon went down from an elbow on
top his his head that followed after a worthless jab from a pathetic
Tyson that they wants to fool us into thinking he was back and better
than ever, or at least just as good. It's clear that he wasn't, and
Seldon should have won that fight had he took it seriously and off his
knees. You can clearly see Richard Steele call the knockdown off at
first, then he looked into Seldon's eyes and began the count. The act
was pretty bad, but Steele had no choice but to count it a knockdown.
Then the 2nd knockdown, a legit hit, but not worthy of scoring a
knockdown, and if it was that devastating, how was Seldon able to bring
his hands back up to protect himself from another possible Tyson punch,
AS HE WAS FALLING! I remember that fight like it was TODAY! Quite
pathetic. Seldon was hoping the ref would call it off right then and
there, but when Steele didn't, back came the act again, as Seldon needed
out so he faked the wobbly legs and glazed eyes! He was fine on the way
down and on the way up. It was complete BS! I'm sorry, but that's the
all time worst heavyweight champion! Maybe if this was worst heavyweight
only, then I could see a case for another fighter, such as McNeeley, but
Ruiz wins fights legitimately, gets wins over named fighters
legitimately. The only thing not legit is his way of receiving the title
last few times. Toney beat him, he shouldn't be given the title, he
should fight for it. And that deal after he lost to Jones, how can you
just be handed the title? More BS, and yes, he is undeserving of boring
a champion and one of the most boring fighters that's I've ever
witnessed, but that's better than being a disgrace to all mankind. Which
would you rather your child be? The most hated and boring champion, or
one who takes a dive for some cash, then goes into hiding because
everyone knows it was a dive and has to remember what he/she did for the
rest of their life and have it haunt them forever?"
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Blue:
"Wow
Gloria, you brought up some really good points but you're also way off
on quite a few. First off Ruiz wasn't just handed the title after Jones
went back down in weight. Ruiz was given the decision in an ugly
interim match with Hasim Rachman before Jones decided not to try the
heavyweight division again. The same Rachman who is now the WBC
Heavyweight champ. But let me touch on Bruce Seldon. Now mind you I am
not here trying to make a case that Seldon deserves to be in the hall of
fame but you talk about his taking a knee when he wasn't hurt, isn't
that the same thing that Chop Chop Corley did against Cotto....?
Supposedly he wasn't hurt either. I can't say whether or not Seldon was
really hurt against Tyson...neither can you. We can give our opinions.
You talk about how Seldon should have won that fight against Tyson if he
would have just taken it seriously. Well that case can also be said for
Douglas. After he beat Tyson, he ate every Twinkie in site. Now Seldon
has fought some very good fighters (fought not cuddled) like Ezra
Sellers, Ossie Ocasio, David Bey, loss to Oliver McCall (pre-breakdown),
loss to Riddick Bowe, Jesse Ferguson, loss to Tony Tubbs, Greg Page,
knocked out Tony Tucker in the 7th (Ruiz TKO an older Tucker in the
10th), and retained his title by TKO vs. Joe Hipp before losing to Tyson
so at least he had a title defense. Seldon also had 29 knockouts against
the higher rated boxers of his time. Who has Ruiz ever knocked out
since becoming champion. Ruiz had three sleepovers with old and tired
Holyfield, a win by DQ against Kirk Johnson, the loss to Roy Jones, the
ugly match with Rachman, the "TKO (fight stopped too soon) vs. Oquendo,
and then his "win" against Golota before losing to Toney. Think about
all of those fights that I just mentioned and he had maybe one win (2nd
sleepover with Holyfield). Seldon won his fights convincingly and lost
convincingly (except the Tyson fight). Ruiz loses his fights and gets
the decisions. Ruiz hasn't won a fight in years. Now Ruiz is
very affectionate and had he fought Tyson, Tyson might have nibbled on
his ear too but Seldon did feel Tyson's power. Whether it was the 1st,
2nd, or 3rd blow, he felt Tyson's power. Seldon's career was on the
tail end and he was getting this payday against Tyson. He felt the
power, got afraid of feeling it again, and stood down. Something to
tell your kids about, no way but at least he faced Tyson. Ruiz would
have never fought Tyson, Lewis, or Vitali Klitschko for that matter.
Now Klitschko retired and Ruiz has the nerve to call him a chicket sh*%t.....I
don't think so. Go back to being the quiet man....what is wrong with
this guy? Does he need a hug?"
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Round 2 starts off with a bang ass Gloria coming out over confident gets
caught with a counter straight right from Rob Quijano that lands flush
on the chin and staggers her momentarily. Good counter on Ruiz winning
the WBA in a fight after the Jones loss rather than it being handed back
to him. Bit of a slip there by Gloria. Gloria does some good defense
here and was obviously hurt from that one punch which has refused her
from getting into any big exchanges this round. Some good defense on
detailing the Seldon/Tyson fight, especially the knockdowns. This was
able to duck Rob's lead right hand. Rob however keeps the pressure on
Gloria, but keep patient, naming a handful of Seldon opponents that
Gloria had earlier disregarded. Good round by both, but the
counterpunching clearly won by Rob in this one.
* 10-9 Round to Blue *
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- Round 3 - |
Blue:
"Okay Gloria this is a very good fight. Now I've
said quite a bit about defending Seldon as the choice for worst
heavyweight champion. Now I need to focus on my choice, John Ruiz. I'm
going to give you a very potential scenario......."And now the
Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.....John Ruiz.". Can you
even imagine that? Think about it Don King now controls the 4
heavyweight champions. With 3 of them (Byrd, Rachman, and Brewster) it
depends on which one is going to show up. Byrd looks like crap and has
he really won any of his last few fights.......Oquendo, McCline, Golota,
or his last borefest? Brewster is the unknown. Which Brewster shows
up.....the one against Meehan or the one against Golota? Hasim Rachman
who has lost to Ruiz (that's what the decision stated) and beat Barrett
because Barrett didn't show up (yet hurt Rachman late)? Who has been
getting all of these decisions even in defeat? John Ruiz. Ruiz who you
state won his fights legitimately.........are you serious? Because he
is given the decisions means he won legitimately? Ruiz who apparently
wasn't shown affection growing up so he feels the need to find it in the
ring? This can happen. Don King for some reason likes Johnny Boy. I
would rather see Norman Stone fight these guys. He shows more passion
for the sport and more heart. Ruiz says that he doesn't duck anyone but
he doesn't fight them either. He gets in the ring, conducts his
foreplay, and gets awarded with decisions. Ruiz knows that this could
not continue after Toney beat him (also not the answer for the
heavyweight division) so he retired. Then the steroids came forward and
here is Ruiz calling out all of these people to fight him because he is
the best and does not cheat. What the hell does he call these gifts he
is given? How can we as fans not feel cheated after these decisions?
You talk about Seldon being the worst but he has had the one ugly
reminder. Ruiz leaves us with ugly memories that any true fan seeks
therapy after reliving them. Ask yourself what is worse the few rounds
of the Seldon vs Tyson fight or the eternities of the Ruiz fights? Why
isn't HBO televising the Valuev fight?"
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Red: "Yes, I am serious. Lets go
over those Ruiz fights. In fact, you brought up the last few Byrd fights
which I in fact agree with you on, or even if you didn't say it clearly,
I had them all beating Byrd. Therefore you should have picked Byrd over
Ruiz as worst heavyweight champion because I'm telling you, he won legit
fights. It's not like he stay unbeaten fight after fight like Byrd. He
wins some and loses some. He takes his fair share of losses, and that's
fine, but he gets right back in there. Lets say for a moment the Seldon
really lost to Tyson and didn't take a dive. Did he jump back in there?
Yes, after what, 10 years? He didn't do a George Foreman, he quit and
went into hiding and cashed his under the table check. Ruiz at least
continues to fight after a legit loss like at the hands of Jones. But
going over his last few big fights which basically started in 2000 with
Evander. I had Ruiz winning all 3. Don't get the wrong idea, I don't
like Ruiz, I'm not defending him, just defending my pick of Seldon. Yes,
those 3 fights were 3 of the worst and most boring fights, but Evander
has been way passed his best and should have retired long before this
and Ruiz should have won the 1st two so we wouldn't have had to watch
the pitiful 3rd. Next cam Kirk, nothing much to say about that, was a DQ,
then the loss to Jones which was fine. He lost, but came back and beat
Rahman, the same fighter who KO'd Lewis. That was a legit fight because
Rahman having the skill to beat Ruiz never applied it and fell into Ruiz
boring hold and jab game. Easy win for Ruiz actually. Who's next?
Oquendo, the fighter who was so scared to throw a punch and when Ruiz
finally did it was over. KO! Then Golota, Ruiz got up to beat him. Don't
think just because 1 knockdown ruled means Ruiz lost. 11 rounds to 1
knockdown is nothing. Then Toney! Ruiz lost! So basically there's only 4
fights to discuss, his 3 with Evander and his 1 with Golota. The others
were by KO or DQ!"
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Round 3 gets set and Rob comes right out at Gloria. Looks like he's
planning to make a move here. Gloria still covering up and not offering
much for offence once again, goes into counter punch mode. Gloria throws
a right that lands off the mark and Rob is able to counter with a
perfect left hook that lands and DOOOOOOOOOWWWNNNNN GOOOOOOOOEEESSSS
GLORRRIIIIAAA!
Golota scored two, not one, knockdowns against Ruiz. 5...6...she's up on
7. She looks ok, just got caught off guard. Rob staying patient goes
back to the body as Gloria does more covering up, this time with he back
against the ropes. Again, not offering much offense.
* 10-8 Round to Blue * 1 knockdown
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- Round 4 - FINAL ROUND! |
Red: "Sigh, that was stupid. I
clearly counterpunched my way to victory that last round. What
knockdown? The referee even said it was a slip, make up your mind. Back
to the fight at hand, Seldon and Ruiz both suck, and both are far from
great heavyweight champions, lets alone great heavyweights in general.
But how long has Ruiz stayed at the top? Suffering division or not, he
has always been among the top 4 with Byrd, Vitali and Brewster as the
champ. It's not a bright story, no, and had Ruiz been champ or fighting
for a title back when Seldon fought Tyson, Ruiz wouldnt stand a chance
vs. any of those guys. So it's clear he sucks, but he has managed to
make the best of this era and be at the top non the less. Seldon was at
the top for 1-2 fights. Tucker and Hipp are hardly top guys to be
considered a greater champion than Ruiz with wins over Evander and
Golota and Rahman! Those 3 fighters would beat Tucker and Hipp any day
and that shows how better Ruiz is at not being the absolute worst! I
would pick Douglas over Ruiz as well. Guy goes down, wipes his nose and
decides to stay down. Has Ruiz ever done that? No. I give him credit for
'holding on' (literally) to the title, but holding on to what you want
is in deserve of more respect than just tossing it like those 2 did.
Seldon didn't mind losing much. Neither did Douglas, otherwise they
would have made efforts to get up, or get back in the ring soon after.
No desire at all. Ruiz goes down, but gets up, when he can, or if he
loses, he's back in the ring, dreadfully, within a short time.
That's it. It's clear. My shots are short and sweet, but with the power
enough to score a KO. I'm right, I'm always right and will always be
right, but judged wrong? sure! It happens, Rob known I'm right just wont
admit it."
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Blue:
"No, no, no that's not enough for a knockout because
I have guts, heart, and a beard. Sure Ruiz has a beard too and an ugly
one at that. Gloria, I think you've spent most of this fight agreeing
with me or changing your pick to Byrd or Buster Douglas. Make up your
mind. Sure you say Ruiz sucks and you talk about this era and that one.
You say Seldon wasn't on top for that long yet he spent years in the top
ten. I'm not going to sit here and agree with you on
anything........because with todays era Hipp could be champion. You
mention wins by Ruiz against Holyfield, Rachman, and Golota....excuse me
those were not wins. Ruiz was given decisions. I watched those fights
yesterday with my collection and it makes me sick, disgusted, and
dejected that it can continue. Ruiz has been and will continue to be
heavyweight champion until Don King finds someone more marketable.
Maybe like a 7ft Russian named Valuev. Imagine that he can market this
monster and each bout would be a David vs Goliath fight. Gloria I hate
to do this to you so its best you take a knee now and stay down. John
the quiet man Ruiz is now, has been, and will always be the worst
champion of all time. It is much worse to endure years of this lovefest
than one moment of fear by Seldon. Youi want to know which was the best
Ruiz fight? Obviously it was the one against David Tua. At least it was
real. The Tua fight and Jones fight were honest fights. Last round you
mentioned that Ruiz knocked out Oquendo, the same Oquendo who was robbed
with Byrd. Ruiz did not win that fight either. It was a meeting of two
Puerto Ricans and Ruiz landed a good shot, not a knockout though. I
think the referee got tired of Ruiz' attempts to cuddle, snuggle, and
hold so he stopped the fight as an act of mercy. Now we ask that someone
out there grant us the mercy of defeating this our worst champion of all
time so we don't have to endure any more of this. I pray this is not the
shape of things to come as W.Klitschko showed against Peter. There has
been one master of the hold and punch and that was George Foreman and it
was never throughout the entire fight like Loverboy Ruiz. Ruiz can't
hold a candle to Big George, let alone use his lean mean grill. John
Ruiz who never has a "beard" unless he is in a fight. He's normally
clean shaven. Ruiz likes to hug his opponents and brush his whiskers
against their faces. If he had a habit of low blows, I would think that
he was taking advantage of his sexual orientation. Face it Ruiz is given
decisions. He does not fight. He steps in grabs, holds, and has not
earned a win in several years. Ruiz should do us all a favor and retire
or get knocked out. End his career without doubt. End this "era" of
disgust in the heavyweight division because an "era" of torture is worse
than a fleeting round."
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The 4th and Final round gets underway here and Gloria comes out to
protest with the referee about the knockdown in round 3. She gets
nowhere and is cautioned to fight. Rob comes out with some straight
right hands and backs Gloria up to the ropes. Gloria is doing some good
movement off the ropes, but Rob is too powerful here as an uppercut rips
through the guard and lands on Gloria's chin sending her staggering
across the ring. Rob follows up with a hook to the head on a turned
around Gloria who is forced to take a knee. Gloria looks exhausted.
5....6....7....she's up on 8. Rob goes right at the body and Gloria
brings her guard down to protect, but leaving her head open. Rob takes
the initiative and lands a left hook followed by a right hook that both
lands and DOOOOWWWWWW GOOOOEEEEESS GLOOORRRIIIIAAAAAAAA!
This is the 3rd times she's been down in the fight. The referee take a
good look at Gloria who rises to one knee and blood begins to pour from
her right eye and it's called off right then and there! THAT'S IT, IT'S
ALL OVER!
* Ladies And Gentlemen, This Fight Has Come To And Emd Here In The Final
Round! The Referee Has Called This One Off Following Two Knockdowns At
2:37 In The 4th Round ! To Your Winner By TKO.....
Roooooooooooooooobbbb Quiiiiiiiiiiiijaaaaaaaaannnnoooooooooooooooo!
Rob, great show of patience and skill in
this one. What's next?
Rob Quijano:
All Red Gloria came out really strong in
the 1st round and it was a tough fight. Much props. I just hope to
continue on with exciting fights until I can contend for a championship.
All Red Gloria, a tough fight, a good
showing, you never gave up.
Where do you go from here?
All red Gloria:
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Mosley vs. Vargas -
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* Ladies And Gentlemen, This Fight Was Over Before It Started As
Mr. Sweet Has Refused To Come Out For Round 1. Since A
Replacement Opponent Could Not Be Found In Time, The I.F.F.B.C.
Rules GoadenTeefThe Winner By Disqualification!
Quite an uneventful
week, but you get the win. What's Next?
GoadenTeef:
Remach if he wants
it, or rematch with that Kobra Kid.
This isn't the first time
this has happened Mr. Sweet.
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